I got to chat to Sabrina Lawrie late last year about her new single Dreamstate. We also chatted about the meaning behind the song – being the stigma society attaches to sex.
“It explores the polarity of masculine and feminine and pays homage to the deeper magic behind sexuality and acknowledges how this most natural of human impulses is a sacred union, attempting to shake the stigma that mainstream society places on sex.”
What does the world need to know about Sabrina?
I’ve been playing music a really long time. I’ve been in the Brisbane underground scene since I was 15. I have ben in lots of different projects and worked behind the scenes, music has kind of been my life. My parents ushered me into music when I was really young. They had a live music venue and so my band was the resident band there 3 nights a week. It was called The Indie Temple; it was a bit of an institution in Brisbane in the late 90’s/early 2000’s. They used to have 13 or 14 bands a night over two stages, one stage was electric and the other waws acoustic. They used to throw back and forward to each other. It was crazy.
That would have been so good.
It was pretty memorable that’s for sure. You know I’m still connected to a lot of people through that experience. Mainly punters because I was there three nights a week for nearly five years. From there I went on to working in music venues and playing in different bands. I had a couple of bands. I did release some music in tongue back in 2000/2001. We recorded with Mark McElligott back then who was Powderfingers live engineer. It wasn’t digital back then. We released a few singles and then I suppose life became my priority. I’ve always been pushing music and making and releasing music, but I suppose the things I have been working through in my life always take precedence and that then informs the music I make because dealing with certain things, music is the kind of therapy. I suppose that is why I am still a musician because I couldn’t live without it.
It’s cheaper than therapy.
I can’t imagine my life without music or where I would be.
That’s it. Music is for everyone. The makers and the receivers. Some of my most memorable or profound moments have been as a musician on stage feeling the energy of the audience coming back at me. That doesn’t happen without the punters.
That whole connection. I have friends that just don’t understand that. These people are like my family. It’s such a community and a great space to be in.
Better that church. It is like a religion in a way. Music has a vibration and an energy and people come together to connect and celebrate that. It’s powerful and sacred. Everything is energy and music is such a core of that.
When I try to explain to people the feeling I get when you are actually at a gig and that music vibrates through you, there is nothing on earth like that feeling. There are no words to explain it.
Absolutely. It’s science too because it is technically a wave of frequency connecting with your frequency, changing the cells in your body and effecting your emotions and your whole being. Its transcendent.
I stumbled across a musician here in Adelaide called Lightsmith who released an EP with transcendent music. I listen to it every night through my headphones and it is like my body is being reset.
It does, it realigns your cells. It brings your cells into that cohesion of that frequency. Through my experiences with my partner and just my own healing I use sound frequencies every night as a healing tool. We have a whole set of singing bowls and I am using those. I’ve been invited to perform and sing and do a guided meditation with the singing bowls for the first time for the Uluru meditation on the 21st December.
So Dreamstate. I love that you have touched on the whole stigma that mainstream society places on sex.
I was just answering some questions for another interview earlier asking what does it mean. I wanted to try and elaborate more because its more of a feeling, an emotional and spiritual thing. I was trying to articulate it a bit better. Sexual energy is actually a sacred frequency as well. Not only of humans but creation itself doesn’t exist without sexual energy. The act of sex has this polarity in our society where it is either totally desensitized with sex being everywhere even on ads to completely pornographised. That middle are where it should be respected as a sacred thing has kind of been lost along the way. I think a lot of young people that do feel more confident in themselves maybe are struggling to know how to express themselves naturally. And worried how that is received in our society today.
Absolutely. It’s lost the magical part of sex because it is just in your face 24/7.
Yeah. When two people come together in sacred sex energy that’s where the magic happens because its collaborative magic, it’s creation magic. But it’s like sexual energy is a dirty word. It’s the world that we have come to now. Sex to a lot of people is just the act of getting off, it’s not necessarily the deeper connection. Not everyone, but in general in society there is a stigma.
I think the younger generation actually have a better understanding sometimes of that sexual energy. I know a lot of the guys I talk to, even though they are younger, want that connection even though they aren’t always sure how to go about it.
Growing up with the internet and having access to anything they have an interest in also fuels a wider view in a lot of young people. Not all young people are like that but there is definitely a group who’s eyes are a bit more wide open.
Dreamstate was released on a compilation album to start with?
Yeah that’s how it all came about really. Dan Nebe is the guy who runs Rockin 4 the Homeless from Redclliffe here in Queensland. Every year he puts a concert on and raises money for the breakfast club. The Breakfast Club is a community organisation that feeds homeless people and also offers services to people who need them in the whole Moreton Bay region. Just one night last week alone they fed 67 people and ran out of food. They have requests from people who have been effected by Covid still because we forget that people lost their jobs, and some people didn’t have jobs to go back too. They had a request for over 350 hampers this year for Xmas and they only had enough for 50. So he put this compilation CD together in place of doing the concert and he ended up with a double CD worth of bands contributing (CD available here: https://www.facebook.com/rockin4thehomeless ) Hoodoo Gurus put a new song on there exclusively, and Superjesus added a song. All the money raised goes to the Breakfast Club to help them because they are really needed in the community.
People seem to forget that some people don’t have jobs to go back too. Either their workplaces have shut permanently, or they are in industries that aren’t yet up and running again.
I work behind the scenes in the music industry. I am a driver for international bands and logistics. We don’t have any work yet; we were told that March 2021 would be the earliest.
I think even that is being pretty optimistic.
Totally. With what is happening in America and the number of Covid cases. A lot of our acts come from America and Europe. My partner and I are working on a side project to put out a song later next year but if Dan hadn’t of rung me and asked me to be on the CD I wouldn’t have been inspired back so soon. It’s actually been a Godsend to me because when I asked him when the CD came out his reply was “Oh next week we need it by”!! I was like okay I will say yes. I rang my manager Shaun and he said Sab you recorded these songs two years ago don’t you remember that song Sex Dreams, which is what it used to be called, I’d even forgotten the song. I already had all the drum parts done so I pulled that out of the vaults, and it sounded good. My partner and I recorded the vocals and the bass at home and the guitars at our studio in town. I sent it over to Jeff Lovejoy who mixed it in one day and the next day we had it mastered and sent in. In four days we had it finished. And that is how it came to be.
Ha that is so good.
I’m going to release two more rock songs now to follow it up as I didn’t realise I had them in the bag. My life went crazy and I forgot about them.
That’s good when that happens.
It was excellent. I was like thanks past Sabrina for thinking about future Sabrina!!
I saw that you are touring as well.
Yeah we have a couple of shows that we are going to play around SE Queensland just to support the gig and we will probably line up some more shows in February/March to get a bit more momentum while I get the next song ready. I haven’t released it on all my streaming platforms yet, so it is still just officially available on the CD.
I’m also working on a side project with my partner called Bast ‘N’ Move so we will be bringing stuff out for that too. Bast is the Egyptian cat goddess, we are under different spiritual personas in this project. It’s more talking about all that bigger stuff that we don’t normally touch on in our rock music. It’s more electronic and esoteric.
Finally who are your influences. Being a muso for so long I guess you have a fair few.
I love a hugely diverse range of music. My rock music was inspired from when I was younger, I was into a lot of 70’s rock and prog rock like King Crimson, Led Zeppelin, then Soundgarden who were actually my favourite band in the 90’s. I just thought I was Chris Cornell. I liked lots of heavy stuff back then – Machine Head, Pantera and that kind of informed my guitar playing. I then started getting into desert rock Kyuss and Masters of Reality, who are one of my favourite bands. All the black bands like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Black Mountain and The Black Angels more into the psychedelic world. But I love all this other stuff that informs my electronic inspirations like Bjork. Female singers like Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel is another singer. I have a huge fucking inspiration list.
My list ranges from Country to Black Metal to Classical and Deathcore!
That’s the other thing, we are humans, we have the full range of emotions.
I had this discussion with someone the other day. We were talking about genres and how some people are just so stuck in the one genre. I wondered what they listened to musically to cover all those different emotions.
I was thinking that these days, I remember back in the 80’s and 90’s when we were growing up the majority of music was all in a certain umbrella of sound. I t feels like now all the different genres have broken off and there are all these umbrellas everywhere now. As opposed to the 80’s with a specific sound. Everything has evolved to this point where there is more happening of a mixed diversity. My song that I have put out has got a pretty 90’s vibe to it.
It gave me a real Hoodoo Gurus vibe
Did it? That’s cool, that’s a compliment thank you.
It was like listening to something off of Stoneage Romeos. It took me back to when that was released.
Yeah that’s right it has a real flashback vibe. I was like bugger it; I’m just going to put it out. These days I am sure if anyone connects with it there is more opportunity for people to connect with whatever genre it is. It’s our job as musicians to create what is channelling. As humans we exist to create even if that is just a conversation. But as a musician not limiting what that creativity is.
I love that.
Sabrina’s song is now out on all platforms.